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i had 4 cycles of adriamycin/cytoxin no herceptin. you mean to tell me that that chemo could have missed some cancer cells?OMG and the only way to tell if these cells become active is by having the ca 27-29 blood work to check on the tumor markers. so far mine are normal but one has to wonder.


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. I believe there's nothing to worry about until a doctor tells you there's something to worry about.

If there are ten million cells in a tumor and chemotherapy kills
99.99% of them, that still leaves 1,000 tumor cells. The larger the tumor (more cells) the higher the probability that at least some of the cells will be chemoresistant. A tumor with only a thousand cells can't be detected by anything at this point - it's just too small. I don't think marker test will detect tumor activity at this level.

If you only had 1,000 tumor cells in you today then it's possible that you could live a completely normal life and die of something else when your time came.

My wife Deborah has had eight treatments of AC + Taxotere and four C + Taxotere before we saw more tumor activity. During chemo we saw her lung mets decrease by more than half - it turned out that her tumors didn't like Adriamycin at all - but you can't do A forever. When we removed the nasty red stuff from her treatments her tumor markers started rising again. So - the tumor cells that are left in her are resistant to Cytoxan and Taxotere - at least in the protocol she was on. We haven't tried metronomic dosing to see if that helps.

We've been doing Herceptin for about six weeks so it's a little early to tell how we're doing - I don't imagine we'll know a whole lot until we do a new set of scans in September.

Stage IV bc is a different animal - since most of the time chemo doesn't kill *all* of the tumor cells, you work with one treatment until it stops working and then you move on to something else and use that until you see disease progression - and so on.

Anyway, I'm glad that they didn't find any evidence of disease after chemo, Linda. That makes you NED, right?

 


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